I think StoneWall might be on to something. I like to be both holded and folded!
cognizant dissident
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WHY DOES UNDERSTANDING WOMEN CAUSE SUCH AN IMPACT ??
by Mr. Majestic ini bumped into this reaction (nearly called it a problem) when i was a jw.
being that single sisters were out of bounds to chat to (unless you were thinking of marrying them), i thought that it was a safe(er) option to chat to married sisters.
i reasoned that they would have been happy in their marriage so chatting to them wouldnt be such a problem.
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WHY DOES UNDERSTANDING WOMEN CAUSE SUCH AN IMPACT ??
by Mr. Majestic ini bumped into this reaction (nearly called it a problem) when i was a jw.
being that single sisters were out of bounds to chat to (unless you were thinking of marrying them), i thought that it was a safe(er) option to chat to married sisters.
i reasoned that they would have been happy in their marriage so chatting to them wouldnt be such a problem.
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LOL Nice try hamsterbait, but women do know what they want. They want a partner who will listen to them and understand them (so do men coincidentally) Mr. Majestic was just causing problems because he was giving them what their husband's weren't and making them look bad!
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ouija board
by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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When I was a little kid I had experiences of demons attacking me in my sleep. For years, when I was a JW, I believed those experiences were real. Now that I am no longer attached to that religion or their beliefs, I realize I was most likely experiencing common childhood night terrors, no doubt brought on by the frightening stories about demons that JW parents regularly tell their children from babyhood. That seems the most logical explanation to me now based upon my adult research and reasoning abilities.
The experience was real, but my interpretation of it was not accurate. Should I freak out at psychologists who study child development or sleep researchers who study night terrors, when they provide an alternative, and reasonable explanation to my childhood experience if it is different than the one I drew as a young child? Or is a mature, functional adult, able to look at the entire body of evidence on a subject and use reason to determine the most likely scenario?
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ouija board
by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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Wow, you really get upset over this Warlock. I think the degree of emotional attachment one has to a particular belief can be measured by the degree of upset one feels when it is challenged.
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ouija board
by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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Warlock, you said in an earlier post that you used the Ouija board multiple times. So, you admit that you were asking a piece of painted wood for answers to questions, more than once. Unless you believe in the magical powers of wood or Hasbro or whoever the hell makes that thing, there is a belief on your part that some force or entity other than yourself was making the thing move. How is that not asking an unseen entity for answers to life's questions? (Note: I didn't say life questions were important questions, but they were important enough to you to ask them.)
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by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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I did read the whole thread. I didn't see anyone discrediting your actual experience, only the fallacious conclusion that you drew from the experience. (ie, Ouija boards move on their own or through some unknown force)
Judging by the vehemence of your emotional outburst, I'm guessing that being outnumbered by that many logical arguments is very threatening to you on some level.
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by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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Ahh yes, yelling, swearing, name-calling, threats of violence....the last refuge of the man with no argument. So predictable! Not to mention dysfunctional.
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by The-Borg inanyone had any experiences good or bad.
i'm interested in your stories.. .
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There is a poster who no longer posts here, and most of these "skeptics" would kiss his ass, who used to say 'Ex-jw's are the most disfunctional people on the planet'.
This thread is "proof" that he was correct.
I'm friends with the poster you speak of Warlock, and I hate to break it to you but he was speaking about posters such as yourself who still find it necessary to put aside research and reason while you seek the answers to life's questions from invisible entities who do your thinking for you, no matter whether those entities be found penning the pages of the Watchtower or moving the planchette on your Ouija board.
He would not side with you on this debate, of that I'm 100% certain.
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Raise an alarm or hope for the best?
by Uzzah ini am in an unique position.
do i make a difference by sounding an alarm or encouraging balance and hope for the best??
thoughts?
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Do a cost/benefit analysis. What are the gains from raising an alarm? What possible harm can come from raising an alarm? What are the possible gains of doing nothing and hoping for the best? What are the cons of doing nothing. If you write out each scenario in a grid you can often see whether the benefits outweigh the harms. If you have some ideas of proabilities of each scenario that is also helpful.
As far as encouraging balance, the approach with the greatest benefits versus the least harms, IS the most balanced approach, imo. Balance and compromise are not always synonomous.
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Why is JEHOVAH so cruel?
by african GB Member inhow can he be so intolerant to "imperfect humans"?.
why does he only love jw's, even though he "created" everyone (well thats according to jw's)?.
does it make sense that he keeps "creating" people( giving birth) while he knows they stand a 50% chance of getting destroyed at armageddon?.
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It also begs the question whether a person left the witnesses or they actually left God?
"Begging the question" refers to the fallacious logic of circular reasoning. It is often misused in place of "raises the question".
Since you raised the question, the answer is many have left both JW's and god, no apologies offered. If one believes the JW's have the truth, and no other religion does, the next logical step after not believing in the JW's is to question belief in the Bible and then God as they are both constructs of religious systems of belief.
We have to wonder how we ourselves are so bad that God has to step in? I ask myself are we responsible for the continued suffering of people in places like africa, if we have medication that could help the aids victims and food to feed the starving but leave it to ill-funded charities. are we condemning ourselves by our treatment of ourselves? 4 million abortions a year! greed making petrol the fuel we use destroying our atmosphere when we could change to alternatives but choose not to!
Are we condemned if we finally have the means to make the whole world peaceful and well fed and even healthy in the greater part but choose not to out of greed, hatred and the human condition of imperfection making us unable to help ourselves to a greater good even when language is no longer a barrier and we can reach every part easily?
We could just as easily turn this question around and ask it of God, as so many have. If God has the means to make the whole world peaceful and well fed and healthy and does not, is he to be condemned? Are the many thousands of people who work to better the lives of the suffering right now, more righteous than God?